Salvation:
We had several great panelists yesterday who all said some very inciteful things.
One of the panels (steve) wrote his thoughts down. Steve works with an organization named intersect.
Below are some quotes from steve
"The gospel doesn’t need alter calls.
While many of us chuckle at the thought, the “alter call” ethos still arises in our addiction to numbers. While numbers can be an indicator, it is not the indicator. Probably the most important commitment/decision one witnesses in the church will not be made by an individual who comes forward and is cheered by the community, but a commitment made by the believing community committing themselves to the individual and their community.
We need to rethink membership and it’s emphasis of people “joining” the church and reconsider membership as someone willing to enter in to a community that commits to embrace them."
"Salvation is not a “thing” and therefore it cannot be lost because it cannot be possessed. Salvation seems to be something that is entered into. John calls it light. It’s a new state of living where we can see and be seen. Salvation cannot be an equation where it is the sum of grace plus mercy. Rather, salvation is an environment where grace and mercy sustain us like the air we breathe. It is not a possession, but an inheritance of which we mysteriously enter and then participate in the redemption of the world.
This kind of salvation makes our existence more than practice. It makes our world more than a prototype. It allows us to worry less about being left behind and more concerned of living here because it is our home. Our Christian story has a happy ending and is founded then, on an eschatological hope that God is accomplishing his purposes."
these quotes don't do the paper justice.
to read more... here's the link
We had several great panelists yesterday who all said some very inciteful things.
One of the panels (steve) wrote his thoughts down. Steve works with an organization named intersect.
Below are some quotes from steve
"The gospel doesn’t need alter calls.
While many of us chuckle at the thought, the “alter call” ethos still arises in our addiction to numbers. While numbers can be an indicator, it is not the indicator. Probably the most important commitment/decision one witnesses in the church will not be made by an individual who comes forward and is cheered by the community, but a commitment made by the believing community committing themselves to the individual and their community.
We need to rethink membership and it’s emphasis of people “joining” the church and reconsider membership as someone willing to enter in to a community that commits to embrace them."
"Salvation is not a “thing” and therefore it cannot be lost because it cannot be possessed. Salvation seems to be something that is entered into. John calls it light. It’s a new state of living where we can see and be seen. Salvation cannot be an equation where it is the sum of grace plus mercy. Rather, salvation is an environment where grace and mercy sustain us like the air we breathe. It is not a possession, but an inheritance of which we mysteriously enter and then participate in the redemption of the world.
This kind of salvation makes our existence more than practice. It makes our world more than a prototype. It allows us to worry less about being left behind and more concerned of living here because it is our home. Our Christian story has a happy ending and is founded then, on an eschatological hope that God is accomplishing his purposes."
these quotes don't do the paper justice.
to read more... here's the link
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